{"id":6777,"date":"2025-12-11T14:52:25","date_gmt":"2025-12-11T13:52:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/academiespatiale.fr\/?post_type=tribe_events&#038;p=6777"},"modified":"2025-12-11T14:52:25","modified_gmt":"2025-12-11T13:52:25","slug":"seminaire-latmos-grandes-marees-sur-les-asteroides-de-forme-allongee-le-cas-de-216-kleopatra","status":"publish","type":"tribe_events","link":"https:\/\/academiespatiale.fr\/index.php\/event\/seminaire-latmos-grandes-marees-sur-les-asteroides-de-forme-allongee-le-cas-de-216-kleopatra\/","title":{"rendered":"[S\u00e9minaire LATMOS] Grandes mar\u00e9es sur les ast\u00e9ro\u00efdes de forme allong\u00e9e : le cas de (216) Kleopatra"},"content":{"rendered":"<div  class=\"tribe-events-schedule tribe-clearfix\" >\n\t<p class=\"tribe-events-schedule__datetime\">\n\t\t<span class=\"tribe-events-schedule__date tribe-events-schedule__date--start\">\n\t\t\t16 d\u00e9cembre 2025\t\t<\/span>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"tribe-events-schedule__separator tribe-events-schedule__separator--date\">\n\t\t\t\t : \t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t<span class=\"tribe-events-schedule__time tribe-events-schedule__time--start\">\n\t\t\t\t11h30\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"tribe-events-schedule__separator tribe-events-schedule__separator--time\">\n\t\t\t\t\t&#8211;\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"tribe-events-schedule__time tribe-events-schedule__time--end\">\n\t\t\t\t\t13h00\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cover is-light\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--80);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--80);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--80);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--80)\"><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-cover__background has-white-background-color has-background-dim-100 has-background-dim\"><\/span><div class=\"wp-block-cover__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-cover-is-layout-3ae6a1a4 wp-block-cover-is-layout-constrained\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left wp-block-paragraph\">Mardi 16 d\u00e9cembre, G\u00e9rard Caudal donnera un s\u00e9minaire intitul\u00e9 \u00ab\u00a0grandes mar\u00e9es sur les ast\u00e9ro\u00efdes de forme allong\u00e9e : le cas de (216) Kleopatra\u00a0\u00bb. Le s\u00e9minaire aura lieu \u00e0 11h30 au LATMOS \u00e0 Guyancourt en salle 2202. Il sera retransmis sur Zoom. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left wp-block-paragraph\"><em>On Tuesday December 16th, G\u00e9rard Caudal will give a seminar on \u00ab\u00a0High tides on elongated asteroids: the case of (216) Kleopatra\u00a0\u00bb. The seminar will take place at 11:30am in LATMOS Guyancourt in room 2202. It will be retransmitted on Zoom.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns are-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-7387b849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" style=\"margin-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--60);margin-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--60)\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Grandes mar\u00e9es sur les ast\u00e9ro\u00efdes de forme allong\u00e9e : le cas de (216) Kleopatra\u00a0\u00bb<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Mardi 16 d\u00e9cembre 2025<\/strong><br><strong>11h30<br><\/strong><br>LATMOS<br>Salle 2202<br>11, boulevard d&rsquo;Alembert<br>Guyancourt<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;<strong>VISIOCONFERENCE&nbsp;<\/strong>&lt;&lt;&lt;<br>Le s\u00e9minaire sera retransmis sur Zoom CNRS.<br>Contacter audrey.chatain [at] latmos.ipsl.fr pour obtenir le lien.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"445\" src=\"https:\/\/academiespatiale.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/LATMOS-LOGO_bleu_tight-1-1024x445.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5400\" style=\"width:140px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/academiespatiale.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/LATMOS-LOGO_bleu_tight-1-1024x445.png 1024w, https:\/\/academiespatiale.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/LATMOS-LOGO_bleu_tight-1-300x130.png 300w, https:\/\/academiespatiale.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/LATMOS-LOGO_bleu_tight-1-768x334.png 768w, https:\/\/academiespatiale.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/LATMOS-LOGO_bleu_tight-1-1536x667.png 1536w, https:\/\/academiespatiale.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/LATMOS-LOGO_bleu_tight-1-2048x890.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"556\" height=\"556\" src=\"https:\/\/academiespatiale.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Gerard-Caudal-UVSQ.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6778\" srcset=\"https:\/\/academiespatiale.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Gerard-Caudal-UVSQ.png 556w, https:\/\/academiespatiale.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Gerard-Caudal-UVSQ-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/academiespatiale.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Gerard-Caudal-UVSQ-150x150.png 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 556px) 100vw, 556px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Abstract:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(216)Kleopatra est un ast\u00e9ro\u00efde tr\u00e8s allong\u00e9, en forme d\u2019halt\u00e8re, de 267 km de longueur mais d\u2019environ 80 km seulement dans les 2 autres directions. L\u2019ast\u00e9ro\u00efde est accompagn\u00e9 de 2 satellites, qui exercent sur lui des mar\u00e9es, conduisant les satellites \u00e0 migrer vers l\u2019ext\u00e9rieur. La vitesse de migration de son satellite le plus ext\u00e9rieur a pu \u00eatre mesur\u00e9e par Broz et al. (2021). En appliquant la th\u00e9orie des mar\u00e9es classique (valable pour un astre sph\u00e9rique), ces auteurs ont pu en d\u00e9duire les propri\u00e9t\u00e9s \u00e9lastiques de l\u2019ast\u00e9ro\u00efde, et ont obtenu en particulier une valeur de la rigidit\u00e9 mu de l\u2019ast\u00e9ro\u00efde environ 3 ordres de grandeur plus faible que ce qu\u2019on attendrait pour ce type d\u2019ast\u00e9ro\u00efde. J\u2019ai refait le calcul des mar\u00e9es en consid\u00e9rant cette fois l\u2019ast\u00e9ro\u00efde non plus comme une sph\u00e8re, mais avec sa forme r\u00e9aliste d\u2019halt\u00e8re. L\u2019ast\u00e9ro\u00efde est ainsi consid\u00e9r\u00e9 comme une poutre ceintr\u00e9e au milieu, sollicit\u00e9e en compression\/\u00e9tirement et en torsion par les passages des satellites. Le calcul des mar\u00e9es donne alors une dissipation d\u2019\u00e9nergie environ 240 fois plus \u00e9lev\u00e9e que si l\u2019on avait affaire \u00e0 un ast\u00e9ro\u00efde sph\u00e9rique. Cet effet de forme explique pour une majeure part la vitesse de migration anormalement \u00e9lev\u00e9e observ\u00e9e pour le satellite, et conduit \u00e0 une rigidit\u00e9 de l\u2019ast\u00e9ro\u00efde beaucoup plus proche de ce que l\u2019on attendrait pour un ast\u00e9ro\u00efde de ce type.<br>Du fait de la rotation rapide de (216)Kleopatra (p\u00e9riode de 5,38 heures), sa forme d\u2019halt\u00e8re est en fait tr\u00e8s proche d\u2019une forme d\u2019\u00e9quilibre hydrostatique, sous l\u2019effet combin\u00e9 de la gravit\u00e9 et de la force centrifuge. En admettant que l\u2019\u00e9quilibre hydrostatique se maintient, je discuterai par ailleurs de l\u2019\u00e9volution s\u00e9culaire de la forme de l\u2019ast\u00e9ro\u00efde au fur et \u00e0 mesure que l\u2019\u00e9nergie du syst\u00e8me est dissip\u00e9e par l\u2019effet des mar\u00e9es.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-background-color-background-color has-background wp-block-paragraph\">Previous LATMOS seminars are now available on Youtube:<br><a href=\"https:\/\/youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLVDexVGJCe0duF4LANooppLeGAdmlDRnN&amp;si=mi5wjsxRsKgQQ6iC\">https:\/\/youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLVDexVGJCe0duF4LANooppLeGAdmlDRnN&amp;si=mi5wjsxRsKgQQ6iC<\/a><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:50px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\t<div  class=\"tribe-block tribe-block__events-link\" >\n\t\t<div class=\"tribe-events tribe-common\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"tribe-events-c-subscribe-dropdown__container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div 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